Ranting

Jan. 23rd, 2005 08:25 pm
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So the Conservatives have managed to put themselves further to the Right on Immigration than New Labour; no mean feat. It's now set to be a central issue of the Tories' election campaign. While they preach reasonableness and practicality, I'm left feeling very uncomfortable about the idealogy that lies behind this. Michael Howard says "we cannot take them all", which seems to me to be the epitome of a straw man argument. Who ever said we were going to "take them all"? But if we're going to decide who to take and who not to take, shouldn't it be on other grounds than an arbitrary quota designed to look appealing in an election manifesto?


On the plus side, maybe this will force Labour back to the left on this issue, but I worry that the net result will be discussion about the level of immigration controls, rather than discussion about the pros and cons of immigration itself. I’m all in favour of more informed debate, but it seems to me that the level of current political “debate” is all after the fact. It amounts to: "We all agree that these Johnny Foreigners are a huge problem, so how do we best keep them out?" Or, even more depressingly: "We all know that the public has a hugely disproportionate fear of these Johnny Foreigners, so how do we best placate them?"

I suppose I shouldn't be surprised, but it really annoys me - so much so that I think I need to start tracking down some actual facts, because sometimes all we seem to get are opinions, myths and misinformation. There is a hopeless confusion in the public mind between immigration, asylum and illegal immigration, and unchallenged assumptions abound: assumptions that we all agree that current levels of immigrants and asylum seekers are too high; that immigrants are in some way inherently undesirable and/or presumptuous; that we can blithely send asylum seekers back where they came from on a quota basis without considering the threat to their lives; that outsiders are a threat to our culture instead of an addition to it; and assumptions that Britain is a single polyglot culture that can be “preserved” instead of a mixture of many cultures and influences, both ancient and modern.

Personally I’d like to see some perspective and context. Just why is concern over immigration so disproportionate to the other issues facing our country? Why is no-one mentioning our moral, ethical and legal obligations around asylum? Without meaning to sound OTT, would it hurt in a holocaust anniversary year to point out that the focus on immigrants as the cause of the nation's ills is exactly the kind of prejudice that got Hitler into power? Is it really possible to protect the interests of our society by acting in a way that goes against principles of tolerance and individual human rights? There are so many different inter-related issues here, yet the debate is on the level of the lowest common denominator - where there's even a debate at all.


...as you can tell, I'm feeling a bit ranty on the subject. ;-)

Date: 2005-01-23 12:43 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] fba.livejournal.com
Currently, whenever I see Micheal Howard on the TV I get an almost uncontrolable urge to throw a brick at the TV. Then I remember that it isn't actually him I would be throwing a brick at and settle for shouting.

Date: 2005-01-23 01:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] veggiesu.livejournal.com
*applause*

Thank you - you've put everything I wanted to say so much more coherently than I would have done.

Hmmm..

Date: 2005-01-23 02:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mattia.livejournal.com
...last time I checked/heard numbers (it was either the BBC, or Dutch Telly), it turned out that relative to it's population, Britain's not really anywhere near the top in terms of asylum seekers/illegal immigrants coming in. Just to throw that spanner in the works. Just entirely ignoring the reasons for all of this.

Frankly, we're having some problems of our own right now, with downright daft situations regarding asylum seekers and others being deported who've literally lived here for a decade and longer, paying taxes, holding jobs, kids born here and schooled here, etc. Long live the new governmental structure. I'm all for stringent application of fair laws, but sometimes the letter seems to get in the way of a realistic grasp of the way the world works.

Date: 2005-01-24 02:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] immortalradical.livejournal.com
I think I need to start tracking down some actual facts

Here's a start to your collection, and it's one of my favourites:

Last May, when Britain - almost along among the rich European countries - said that people from the new EU countries could come and work here immediately, the Express - arch anti-immigration rag - intoned gravely that 54,000 people would come here and for us to say they didn't "warn" us. Well, in fact, since last May 91,000 people from the former Soviet republics have claimed work permits. And you know what?

This country, with an economy that has been expanding for 12 years, created 99,000 jobs in the last quarter alone.

So. Even when the doom-mongers underestimate the level of immigration ... it's still OK. Despite anything he says, Howard's policy platform is not set upon an economic basis. It is based entirely in narrow-minded cultural concerns.

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